Thank you, John M. Browning. For a hunter looking to expand his or her rifle collection, wanting a cartridge that will mate up well with a .300 Magnum, .30-06 or 7mm, I'd highly recommend the .375 H&H as the bigger version of the "all-around" cartridge. These rifles were far from handsome and never reached the market. 30" barrels. Four-way adjustable comb. There are almost always some videos on YouTube that show them being shot. The most recoil Ive ever taken came from a .577 Nitro Express double rifle. It pushes 120-grain "deer" bullets 3,200 fps. "All that power and velocity isn't necessary!" So far, what's not to like? Whether you're shooting a break-action, pump-action, or semiautomatic, Sign up for the Field & Stream newsletter and get the latest intelligence straight to your inbox. Warren told me that, out of curiosity, he fired his first shot high in the pachyderms forehead, which is nothing but bone. In actual testing using three decibel-measuring instruments located at increasing distances, we confirmed that rifles with muzzle brakes are appreciably louder to the shooter, but are not necessarily louder in all circumstances. Two .577 Tyrannosaurs dward a .308 cartridge. Obviously it hits very hard. Bid Now. A fast round with astonishing ballistics, but quite punishing as far as recoil. The 416 is a necked-down 460 Weatherby, so recoil will be on par with the larger bore. In recent months, my friend and elephant mentor, Ivan Carter, has switched from his beloved Heym double .450 to a new Rigby in .577. It echoed when it hit bottom. Rifles are rare, and the ammo is frightfully expensive, so until Bill Jones offered up his J&L Wilkins I had never fired a .700. Kimber's Hunter Pro Desolve Blak takes the firm's more affordable mountain rifle to new heights. Choose an option Accubrake ST Burnt Bronze Accubrake ST Cobalt Accubrake ST Tac Grey. than was available in other huge rifles. Things have been ironed out, and the modern loads for the .458 Winchester Magnum operate as they were designed to. J. Scott Rupp takes a first look at the Springfield M1A Loaded rifle chambered in the popular 6.5 Creedmoor. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. Why bother with all that . You should get a kick out of this anyway. If you're in the market for one of these cartridges, test a few of them to find your own personal recoil limit. Scott Rupp gets a chance to talk to Aaron Oelger about a few new products from Hodgdon and why reloading store shelves are empty. The .600 was always rare. Spotting this ram was down to pure hunting luck at 300m. HubSpot sets this cookie to keep track of sessions and to determine if HubSpot should increment the session number and timestamps in the __hstc cookie. The 257 Weatherby can drive 75-grain bullets 4,000 fps. Includes two muzzle brakes. Cartridge Type: Height: 2.913". When rafting white water, wear a life jacket. There are some shooters who can handle recoil extremely well. But since this is my story, I'm going to stick with the Big Three of Nitro Express cartridges: the .577 3-inch, .600 and .700. Because of its mild recoil, it is often recommended as a good hunting cartridge for youth and small-framed shooters. no doubt the recoil is tremendous but the impact and the velocity too is amazing, just like to gather information on its killing power practically, so that can use when am next in africa for a safari. Whether it's the buffalo, elephant and hippo of Africa, Australia's banteng and water buffalo, or the giant brown bears of the north, a worthy cartridge is like a good insurance policy. (You could argue that the .460 Weatherby is its equal or superior, but its frightful recoil is a problem for just about everyone. Tell me what you need. Never use a gun that makes you think about the recoil! 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(O'Connor brought a .416 Rigby rifle, developed loads for it and wrote articles extolling its virtue, thus introducing the caliber to most American hunters for the first time.). It wasn't a huge success, but the design is sound. So, today, the world's biggest and baddest sporting rifles are chambered to .577 3-inch, .600 and .700 Nitro Express cartridges. This is the main cookie set by Hubspot, for tracking visitors. Available in 20 ga. We use cookies on our website to give you the most relevant experience by remembering your preferences and repeat visits. I owned a .458 Winchester for many years and that was said to have 65 foot pounds of recoil, about double that of a 3 12 gauge in a 9 pound gun. Publisher, Kevin Steele is with Brett Marquardt from Streamlight Inc. discussing the new Streamlight Pro Tac 2.0, the latest edition in the Pro Tac series. All rights reserved. Very few of these guns were made. He makes sure that his ammo is up to full spec, 2,050 fps. I am not a big guy so definately not my choice of gun, but seen it sit very well with an Italian PH who is high on the scale in both height and weight. It has happened with most any of the buffalo-capable cartridges; 470 N.E., 500 N.E., 505 Gibbs, 577 N.E., 458 Lott, 375 H&H, 416 Whatever, and so on. The .500 Jeffery drives that 570-grain bullet to 2,300 fps, and it was until the advent of the .460 Weatherby the most powerful shoulder-fired rifle cartridge. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. And while all three cartridges have been chambered in single-shots--and both the .577 and .600 have been chambered in slant-box bolt actions--they were designed for use in doubles, so there is really just one bullet weight and one load for each. The .500 Nitro Express offers plenty of stopping power, driving a 570-grain bullet to 2,150 fps for over 5,800 ft.-lbs. On buffalo the ultra-large bores are very large indeed, probably more powerful than is required but unquestionably effective with either softpoints or solids. It drives a 500-grain bullet to 2,600 fps, for over 7,500 ft.-lbs. It does not kick, but pushes lightly enough that when the gun comes down again, you are right on the target and ready to unleash the second dose of grainage to end the show. The shot was taken at 250m due to the mist AND rain. I hunted with an old-time PH named John Knowles who used a .460 as his backup rifle and he swore that it was the only firearm that would absolutely, positively stop anything dead under any conditions, all the time. Available in 12 and 20ga. the .475 No. That 9.5% more capacity does translate into faster speeds. Expectional free range common reedbuck. I am convinced none of them penetrate as well as, for example, a 400-grain .416 at 2,400 fps (more velocity, less resistance). The .460 Weatherby Magnum. We do not accept returns on ammunition. It's garbage. My thoughts are that the vast majority of the writers have never seen, let alone fired, a 460. Even more, the 460 is a very accurate cartridge. 505 Gibbs. The cookies is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Necessary". The .460 Weatherby is said to have 110 foot pounds of recoil, obviously not intended to be shot by a skinny boy. Recently, however, I had the opportunity to shoot all three and actually see them used in the field. It was used by a number of the old-timers, including such greats as Capt. Leave it on. I hope this is of some help. Shortly after the .460 Weatherby appeared, the rifle-making firm of Atkinson & Marquart, a builder of high-grade rifles in Prescott, Ariz., developed this beast. | The world's most versatile big bore revolver. Yes, the .378 Weatherby will generate considerable free recoil, an average of 77 ft. lbs. Maybe some can't, but I don't believe this of the better choices. More curiosity than desire to own I guess. The .375 Ruger uses the same case head diameter as the .375 H&H, looses the belt, and uses a wider body to keep the case capacity in the same ballpark as the H&H design. The exterior ballistics are virtually identical, and anything that can be said about the .375 H&H can be said about the .375 Ruger, minus the nostalgia. It is used to enable interoperability with urchin.js, which is an older version of Google Analytics and is used in conjunction with the __utmb cookie to determine new sessions/visits. The big deal is the outstanding power and accuracy at a very reasonable price. Besides, the "too fast" argument doesn't hold up if it doesn't also apply to the 375s and 416s. Recoil is 100 foot-pounds. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. You can buy bulk 9mm ammunition that is priced competitively and ready to ship. With less recoil, the 257 can put as much energy on target as a 30-06 . This time, Warren shot him in the brain and that was that. This spine-snapping number was created in 1993 by the A Square Company, allegedly in response to two PHs who needed more power (what the hell were they hunting?) Quote from: badsection on November 24, 2014, 03:02:12 PM. Unprepared wannabe hunters should stay home and watch football on television. Most of the people I shoot with just shake their heads at what I shoot. Boxes, International Addresses, AK, CA, HI, MA, CT, IL, NJ, NY nor DC residents. The stuff we had fail in 2008 chronographed at about 1,850 fps, 200 fps below specs. A couple of years ago, I saw a non-commercial video of a Cape buffalo hunt in Africa. But that .416 was a brute. of energy. So the ruger has an advantage of being a . I know three people personally who have fired the .700, all of them are highly experienced with heavy rifles, and all assure me that the gun is uncontrollable; you fire a shot and find the butt down by your hip and the muzzles pointing at the sky. I know I don't. You must log in or register to reply here. Available in 12 and 20ga., 26" and 28" barrels. I bet not too many people with a 460 Weatherby drive a minivan. As for the noise, well-heeled professional hunters should be fitted with appropriate hearing enhancement-and-protection devices, as should the hunter. Previous. The .577 and .600 Nitro Express cartridges are well over a century old. The original loads pushed a .423-inch diameter bullet at 2,150 fps mimicking the .450/400 3-inch performance level for a cartridge fully capable of doing elephant control work, yet in a package that was relatively easy on the shoulder. Let's take a look at some of the big guys and their performance. 460 Weatherby Mag Rifles. In terms of both recoil and gun weight I had the best deal going. The PH (professional hunter) was clearly not pleased that his client was carrying a 460 Weatherby. It's a neat, rimmed, bottle-neck cartridge, which slides into the chambers of a double rifle like they were greased. So in looking for the best of the best in gunsmithing in order to fill my expectations, I called Weatherby in Sheridan Wyoming. While we have went to great lengths to make sure that it's as accurate as possible this rendering should not be used to generate specs for casings. The .600, a well-balanced sidelock, weighed only 14 pounds and change. Theres a video on YouTube of some yahoo shooting one of these rifles indoors, and being flung to the floor by the recoil. .338 Winchester Magnum, .300 Remington Ultra Magnum, 6.71mm (.264) Lazzeroni Phantom, 7.82mm (.308) Lazzeroni Patriot, .45 Smith & Wesson Schofield, 6.5x54 MS (6.5 Mannlicher-Schoenauer), .32 H&R Magnum, .32 Auto (7.65mm Browning), 8mm Remington Magnum, 7.21mm (.284) Lazzeroni Firebird, .25 Winchester Super Short Magnum (WSSM), .44-40 Winchester, .375 Winchester, .444 Marlin, .325 Winchester Short Magnum. The cookie is set by GDPR cookie consent to record the user consent for the cookies in the category "Functional". Product Features. It does not store any personal data. The problem is the recoil becomes too much for many of us. Seriously, the .600 is a handful. Publisher of Petersen's HUNTING magazine, Kevin Steele is at the Steiner Optics booth with Alberto Corbetta to discuss the Predator 4 and Predator 8. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. Blessed with five times the recoil of the .45 Long Colt, the Casull fires a 250-grain bullet at 1,900 fps, producing 2,000 foot-pounds of energy. The new factory ammo is loaded down only about 2550 fps now. I have heard the recoil of the .378 Weatherby Magnum described as "soul crushing," and I'm not one to argue with that statement. 460 would be a great close range timber elk rifle with a good brake on it. The 460 is not an uncontrollable monster. I would like to purchase these. The .460 Weatherby, despite it's power and recoil, has a reputation for fine accuracy as well. Some might argue today that it still holds that distinction, but it remains the general perception to the majority. SMITH & WESSON 686-4 357 MAGNUM. If looking to acquire an automated powder-charge dispensing unit to speed up precision reloading, don't judge the RCBS ChargeMaster Lite powder scale and dispenser by its name; the Little Green machine packs a heavy-weight punch with speed and accuracy. The graphic lesson is this: If your .577 doesn't rattle your teeth on the range, you probably don't have enough velocity. Introduced by Weatherby in 1958, the .460 was, for 29 years, the most powerful commercial cartridge you could buy. This was such an amazing harvest of a free range trophy in the hill tops of Dullstroom. Messrs. Atkinson & Marquart necked up the Weatherby from .45 to .47, which allowed it to take 600-grain bullets and fire them at 2,500 fps with 8,040 foot-pounds of energy. I don't care how much machismo you are compelled to project. Compared to the foregoing arsenal of horrors, the Casull is more like a BB gun. 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